Two days ago I shared my thoughts on what I thought about a 44-year-old exotic dancer who asked the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario to intervene on her behalf because she felt that she was a victim of age discrimination after her boss decided that he was going in another direction as far as strippers go. It wasn’t my intention to follow this story up, but after visiting the CBC website when my curiosity was aroused after I discovered an external link from CBC to Crooked in Canada, I thought what the hell-why not.
After reading CBC’s article about the “hard-done-by” stripper I thought I would peruse the 158 comments that were left by others. I was surprised to come across two comments submitted by Ouwroulis herself who under her current circumstances (her human rights complaint being picked up by HRTO) should have abstained from interacting in a public forum such as a news site until her case was concluded.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t begrudge her the opportunity to defend herself when it comes to what others are saying about her in a public forum, but what she has said in her two comments, the content of which can be found below, she should have kept her mouth shut, avoiding the limelight of a public forum until her case was concluded, or at the very least reserved her comments for journalists, radio-show host, and other more legitimate media forms of media, and not in a comment thread trailing a news story about herself.
Dissecting her comments so to speak.
The last comment I read from her:
Darren;, Thanks for your thoughts; you see Human Rights took this case; the 2nd witness will go public soon as well. There are a lot of other ‘facts’ you don’t know about. For example, the 2nd witness was called into an office and fired over a review about her (not me) she was handed the internet review; and told she was fired over it. Oddly 3 weeks before the women had just rec’d. an employment letter fr. the bar saying that she had a secure job etc., and got a bank mortgage….and then fired….(due to age…) these and other facts will come out in the tribunal. So, one day we are great employes & next we are old…..Well, I think we will win our case. Besides; every customer likes something different; every look, think, tall, short petite; black white; younger , mature; so who is to say that anyone can’t make money. We all got hired at other clubs; oddly the other clubs we were hired at were all owned by caucasian owners. Mr. Sit is Asian; and I believe is more predjudiced and youth driven…than other club owners. Too bad for me; and the others. But this is Canada; and we have human rights in this country! If you knew of all the terrible things he’s done to me; and others; you’d be on our side, hopefully you will get to find out more. Have to go to work now.
Kim O.
Despite the fact that the Human Rights has taken up her cause and that legal action is pending against her former employer, she has gone out of her way to make some serious allegations, or as she has stated directly, “If you knew of all the terrible things he’s done to me and others, you’d be on our side.” Now that is a pretty inflammatory statement to make about her former employer. That statement will not bode well for her and I doubt that the HRTO would be too happy about their client, especially if as they should have, coached her one what she can and cannot do while her case is pending. Maybe it’s just me but the preceding comment, in particular her last second last statement, indicates to me that this woman might have a bit of an axe to grind and that her fight isn’t just about age discrimination. She sounds like a disgruntled former employee to me. This fight is also about money. I doubt she is making a $1000.00 per week in her new job. I would also suspect that her career as an exotic dancer is all but over now that her story has gone oh so public.
Kimberlee; O. here; look; it’s better that I dance than be on disability. I don’t look my biological age, and nobody ever knew unless I told them. After surviving an abusive marriage and tragic car crash, etc., I felt it was the best thing I could do for myself, & finances. I know that I’m not every mans ‘cup of tea’! I was in fact quite busy at work; in the last 6 months; didn’t even do ’stage’ anymore; but had I, it would have not turned people off; it would have helped me make more $. I am not flabby, no stretch marks and wrinkles. I agree it was a bad photo in Mississauga news. The facts is there were several productive money making dancers fired that week! All due to age. I’d like to be able to share much more; in time; I will. Starting at age 40 is unusual I agree. I was not burned out to begin with; and love what I do. I am not burned out by drugs and booze as suggested. I am not working under the table while collecting government money as suggested; I am working within the industry still, just not as busy as I was at my ‘old club’ and actually do have plans for some re-training. I do not mind being the ‘joke’ as you all have suggested. The girls who were fired went to those bars daily; for years….they all looked great. The customers who I danced for ranged in every single age group. Oh, and by the way; it’s against the law to tell someone you are too old get out. If any of you met me in real life; you will not think I am my biological age. I certainly don’t claim to be a ‘beauty contestant; not now or ever…but I look and feel good enough to dance naked in public; and I certainly have never been boozed of the stage. I’m very happy that I had the chance to write this. I am not used to posting anything on any website. There are so many things that will come up; that I hope you all get to find out more of the truth via the tribunal. I have no problem with anyone who would like to email me; by using my first name and rogers.
I would send you a pic., a better one; and more details of my case…it’s apparently generated alot of interest.
In the above comment she is clearly on the defensive, and she is going out of her way to explain to those participating in the CBC forum, that she’s an okay kind of gal despite her age. I get the impression she wants people to feel sorry for her. How about you?
Exotic Dancing Dinosaur
Nevertheless she feels she is being discriminated against because of her age (and judging by the picture above she looks her age) in a business where looks, especially youthfulness, means everything to strip club owners. Aside from her obvious breast enhancements, it would appear that she has had a few cosmetic procedures to cover up the fact that she was a 40 something stripper and to gain a competitive edge over other 40-something-year-olds, which in my weird and provocative way of interpreting things leads me to believe that she was fully aware that her age would catch up with her eventually and that her days as a stripper would be numbered because of her age, and that suggests to me that she might have been a little discriminatory herself and toward herself.
Ouwroulis only motivation for screaming age discrimination is money, and how much she can get from it, not to mention the other fringe benefits like a book deal, a few dozen job offers from people empathetic to her cause, and of course the benefits of cheque book journalism. She’s in it for the fame and fortune, it’s that obvious.
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1 Jaime // Nov 6, 2008 at
I think that Kim posted in the CBC attempting to clear her name and explain herself, possibly out of naivete doing so might negatively affect her case.
Looking at her sentence structures and word choices, it doesn’t seem to me that she’s used to being highly articulate in public concerning a legal matter. Then again few people are.
Taking at least part of what she’s saying at face value, it would seem to me that there are possibly more factors at play here then the simple fact that she was dismissed because she “looks too old for the job.” She actually said that if that was the only reason, then she would have been upset but would have moved on and found work elsewhere.
The “other factors” must have been somewhat compelling, or else the human rights commission would probably not have taken the case. The “other factors” cannot be published outside of the context of a hearing now, because they could, I’m guessing, libel the club owner, if the allegations became public and were eventually dismissed.
This actually could become an important case. The only other similar scenario that comes to mind are the changes that came about concerning airline stewardesses a number of years ago. It used to be the case that they were obligatorily retired at a certain age, couldn’t be married, couldn’t work if they were pregnant and so on. We see mature airline stewardesses quite commonly now-a-days, because a legal battle or series of legal battles upheld their rights to do so….
CG says
Hey Jaime, thanks for your comment.
I was of the impression that this was merely a case of age discrimination. While I am sure that Kimberlee made other allegations, the age discrimination complaint appears to be the only one that HRTO is pursuing, though as you implied they may have not laid all their cards on the table.
I don’t doubt that she was motivated by other factors to lodge her age discrimination complaint, that there were other reasons for pursuing legal avenues, but I still think (of course I could be wrong) that she is motivated by money more than anything else.
Like I said, I don’t think she’ll win this one, but that doesn’t mean that strip club owners won’t be put on notice by the HRTO when it comes to dismissals based on age.
It will be interesting to see how this turns out.
Regards
CG
2 Jaime // Nov 7, 2008 at
Hi CG,
Kim has responded to my similar comment on the CBC blog, and I’ve asked her to post a copy of her complaint on Scrib.com
If she complies then we may have a better idea of her choice of action. Filing an HRC complaint is usually a difficult choice for someone, and it’s often more about dignity than money, but it’s too early to tell.
CG says:
Hey Jaime, not to be a smart ass, but given her choice of occupation, dignity? Hmm, that’s a tough one for me to swallow. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying that all exotic dancers are lacking in dignity but for some reason I get the impression that when it comes to Kimberlee her dignity has a lot of dollar signs following it.
I know how difficult the choice can be filing a complaint with Human Rights having done so myself on one occasion and helped another file one as well, though in my complaint I got no where.
As for her posting a copy of her complaint on CBC, I really doubt that will happen, but hey you never know.
Regards,
CG
3 Jaime // Nov 7, 2008 at
CG wrote: “…I get the impression that when it comes to Kimberlee her dignity has a lot of dollar signs following it. …”
My sense of it is that she’s no more or less chasing a buck or a fair shake then anyone else who found themselves turfed from a workplace that they’d been a part of for a settled period of time.
If it’s not an illegal activity, and she pays her taxes just like everybody else, then I think she’s entitled to the same kick at the can as everyone else without being ridiculed for selling a wanted service, in this case : entertainment.
Do actors sue movie producers because they didn’t pass the audition? No. Are TV stations required to pay for entertainers who they feel are no longer profitable or fit their corporate vision? No. But if someone has been engaged for a substantial length of time; and I believe in Kim’s case it has been years, then there are certain generally recognized protocols of fairness that an employer should practice concerning dismissal. I’m not suggesting that Kim’s former employer did or didn’t do so, I’m just speaking generally to the topic.
CG says:
She is in a business where for employers, appearance is and means everything to their bottom-line. Kimberlee knew that going into the business. Her augmented breast (I am assuming they are) and whatever other cosmetic procedures she might have had is testament to that. She has sculpted herself to fit the industry’s standards and had she not done that she probably wouldn’t have gotten a job as a stripper in the first place. She knew going in her age was a factor and she knew she looked her age. That’s just my opinion of course.
She entered that industry at the age of 40, so she says anyway.
I could be oh so wrong about this, but I also sense vindictiveness apart from the money she is chasing.
The thing that really gets me about this is that she has alleged in the CBC blog that her employer has done other things to her. If that were the case then why just the age discrimination thing? If the OHRT thinks her case has merit, why wasn’t there any mention of that when this story made headlines for the first time?
The employer might have some legal standing when it comes to making a case for himself against Kimberlee, starting with the fact that she made statements about the way she treated her, but offered no evidence, not even the slightest indication of what it is she is alleging. Libel, defamation?
Her argument is moot given that there is a mandatory age for retirement in Canada, though one is not forced to retire at 65.
She seems to be going out of her way to tell her side of the story while avoiding disclosing facts to back up her claim. I was amused that she went out of her way to let others know that “the other stripper’s” story will be told shortly too, again and indication that she is trying awfully hard to convince others that her story has merit, that her story is the right one.
I haven’t heard her former employer make his case yet and I am assuming that’s because he knows that he doesn’t need the public arena via the media to make his case for him or attract unnecessary attention to the case being brought against him. You would think that Kimberlee’s “legal advisors” would have suggested that she do same, but according to her they said she can tell the story to whomever and whenever she feels like it. At least she implied as much in her last response to you. Don’t you find that a little bit odd? I certainly do.
Can you say publicity hound?
Sorry but until I hear her former employer’s side of the story she has no more credibility than he does.
Regards,
CG
4 Kimberlee // Nov 8, 2008 at
I think that above writers have it all wrong. There are certain things about the ‘tribunal’ that I should discuss. I have had many offers for further media; which I am haven’t pursued yet…there is a money loss; of income; I do not work at club that is as busy; nothing under the table about work. As for my looks; I never sculpted anything; that is my body; I haven’t worked out in a gym for 10 years! For the record, who really cares about anyone that buys boobs….I just got them last year! I haven’t had any facial reconstruction either; I have scar on my lip which is fixed up with injections fr. time to time; from car crash….which I survived, but mother & step father did not. I just had my eyes refreshed by the way; (nothing unusual there) would have done that if dancing or not. Good thing I made money at the bars; to be able to afford those things. YOu guys have it all wrong. There are no offers as you suggest I’m some media hound, just offers for more interviews ….besides all that; don’t bother to over analyze everything. The case has merit; and evidence. Lots and Lots of both; or human rights would have hung up the phone when I called.
Kimberlee
CG says
Kimberlee, I find it rather curious that while your complaint is about “age discrimination” you went out of your way to tell readers at the CBC blog that your employer had done more than just “lay you off because of your age” but you failed to offer anything to those readers to qualify your allegations.
You seem to be going out of your way to perpetuate the story the OHRT has taken up on your behalf. I find the legal action to frivolous, and bordering on the absurd at best, especially since the ‘exotic dancing business’ is a business that relies heavily on physical appearance. Do you not think you look in your 40s by the way?
A part of from being a patron of more than a few strip bars before my marriage, and having developed friendships with exotic dancers and bar owners, I know nothing about what it takes to run a strip bar, but there are two things I do know; 1. a lot of strippers would not back you up on this ‘age discrimination’ thing, and 2. when it comes to strip bars appearance does the talking when it comes to making money for owners.
Human rights didn’t hang up the phone because you are stripper claiming age discrimination. When and how often does a case like this come across their desk. They took on your case because you told them you were let go because of your age (I think you were looking to stick it to your boss when you called human rights by the way-that you wanted to get even and acted out of anger). A case like this would be a feather in their cap, though it is highly unlikely they will win it.
Nevertheless you have done what you have done and now you will have to live with the consequences of your actions, one of which will be criticism from people like me. I commend you for standing up for yourself in the many forums you have likely visited after googling your name, but you might be better served to “zip it” until your case is actually heard. The last thing you need is to say something that could jeopardize your case, and that you could regret later in the form of a lawsuit against yourself.
Your are walking on thin ice every time you utter something in a blog or forum. You should learn to choose your words more carefully and stick to the argument of age discrimination instead of going out of your way to convince everybody to jump on your bandwagon.
It is right to sue, but nobody has a right to win just because they say have been done wrong, which by the way I think you expect.
You’re in over your head. You know it, I know it and so does the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal, not to mention your former employer.
It was very brave of you to come in here by the way given how you know I feel about your case. Good on ya for that, and I wish you well with your case but, like I said earlier you don’t have an exotic dancing leg to stand on as far as the age discrimination complaint goes.
As for my mention of your breast enhancements and cosmetic procedures I believe you have had; I was merely qualifying my statement that you knew appearance and age meant everything in the business.
Thanks for stopping by.
Regards and good luck,
CG
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6 Canadian Gypsy // Nov 9, 2008 at
sorry Kimberlee but I accidentally deleted your last comment. Luckily I was able to copy it before hand.
Kimberlee says:
cj; the hard truth here; is that you don’t have all the information o.k. Example; look at the Mississauga News story today re: 2nd witness; I think you are going to start changing your mind; remember there are two now; a 3rd on the way; and perhaps 4th; plus others fired that week for same reason.
We have lots of evidence; due to the info. on internet; and second witness was fired due to internet posting which related to age. I was a part of a larger group of people fired…all over age 40.
I think you should look at the 2nd case, before you start claiming that ‘human rights’ is wasting it’s time with this case. YOu seem really intellegent; but extremely quick to judge; and extremely negative about something that you simply don’t have enugh facts. I am not worried about being sued by Mr. Sit C.J. because I claim everything that I said here or any place in the documents that human rights have; as did the other girl. I wish I could say other stuff that I know; but that I can’t. There are 3 men also suing him; former long term employee’s he fired them in a group too., and have a ‘wrongful dismissal’ too. Many people c.j. not just dancers. So read the 2nd witness article; and start to think about going around to our side. I’m too tired to reply to your long long list of thoughts. I am glad you wish us good luck; because if this was your case…I’d support you.
bb.
Kimberlee
CG says:
Two questions for you Kimberlee:
When you decided at 40 years of age you were going to become a stripper did you not think that your age might be a problem?
Would you have a lodged a complaint if while you were looking for your first stripper job you were told by the club owner that you were too old to work for him?
Also the argument is about your age discrimination complaint, nothing else. Let’s stick to that for now shall we.
7 Jaime Antecol // Nov 9, 2008 at
Kimberlee,
If you could fax a copy of your statement of claim, that is…the original complaint to OHRC, then I will post it online and that will possible eliminate alot of confusion about your case. My fax is 250-386-6246
I also would like to apologize on behalf of others for people’s blind condescension towards you because of your choice of work.
CG says
I will assume Jaime that your apology is in regards to comments made at the CBC blog. Personally I don’t care one way or the other how she chooses to make a living. It’s her life.
That said, Kimberlee should have known that when she decided to enter the public realm with her story she opened herself up to attacks on the Internet.
I can assure you that in this blog there will be no condescending remarks permitted as far as Kimberlee and her choice of occupation goes.
Gotta love the fact that all comments that appear in Crooked in Canada have to get past me first.
Message to Kimberlee: If you’re looking for credibility Kimberlee then it isn’t a bad idea to take Jaime up on her offer. If your case is about more than age discrimination then perhaps you should qualify your claim as such by posting a copy of your statement of claim online. I don’t have a problem posting it here in Crooked in Canada, nor do I have a problem with publishing both sides of the story here either.
That said; if the strip club owner who sacked Kimberlee because of her age is reading Crooked in Canada (and I suspect he is by now) I just want to let you know that I am inviting you to offer up your side of the story in Crooked in Canada, though I won’t hold my breath for that to happen. Just thought I would make the offer anyway.
8 Canadian Gypsy // Nov 9, 2008 at
Kimberlee
I’m assuming you are referring to this story:
Sorry Kimberlee but Barbara Sanderson story doesn’t change my mind. I don’t doubt for one second that either of you were let because of your age, but I don’t think that in the business you are in that Sit’s actions were discriminatory. Sanderson all but clears Sit of discrimination when she says she was terminated because she received some bad reviews from customers who called her “old and ugly.” What does that criticism of her from paying customers have to do with age discrimination? It sounds to me like those customers were merely pointing out the obvious. I’m sure if Sit put his mind to it he could find many a customer or two or three who thought you were maybe old and ugly too, but that doesn’t mean that he is discriminating against your age does it? I am not buying the age discrimination angle and I don’t think a judge will either. Sorry.
9 Jaime Atecol // Nov 9, 2008 at
Correction please. The fax number is 250 386 6266
Thank you.
10 Kimberlee // Nov 9, 2008 at
Wow; you guys are really interested; so I will ask my lawyer if that is o.k. o.k? I will be speaking with ‘them’ on Monday. I don’t know how to start here; but I will try o.k. It’s just the witness names and other girls phone #’s have to be taken out you know. Barbara (Bridgette) she only had one complaint; she said it wrongish or the reporter reported it wrong;….in the tribunal stuff it says
that there was 1 internet review….a bad one; he fired her over it….(Mr. sit denies doing that I’m sure) because he already denied it…but the manager fired her over the review….no ‘live customers’ comming and complaining….! An internet review got all of us fired; because the owner is ‘know to fire people in groups.” I told you that several empoyee’s are suing him at present;…not just dancers.
There isn’t a judge at tribunal there are several people on a pannel or something. I’m not old looking c.j. without trying to post a full pic of me in my outfits for work, but you won’t say I’m old and ugly when you see the proper pics., taken at my house. By the way there was nothing negative ever written on the website that Mr. Sit uses to judge his bar; anyhow nothing negative about me ever! The entire things is a horrible situation. I worked happily for 4 years. I just started dancing because my x…took me for some big big bucks! I was able to do well, and compete with younger girls..believe me. There is more than just me and Barbie Girl! More girls fired all at the same time C.J. all over age 40! Don’t you see a pattern here…hello! I have never been in trouble at work; I have never ever had a manager tell me I was not doing something proper. I will furnish some hard evidence when the time comes c.j. *If my lawyer allows me to do what you ask (I seriously have no problem with it) I have to protect my witness people though…so you CAN’t have there names. The bad stuff Mr. Sit has done to me continues….you should here aboout how he’s slandering my reputation; around the bar! That is the least I guess of what he’s done. I had a mortgage too…and you know what? I had a hard time trying to find a new bar to work at and continue to pay! Every single bar welcomed me to work, but Mr. Sit owns 4 (that are quite busy) so it’s hard to build up new clients suddenly, not to mention being freaked out by the hole thing. It really hurts inside. Especially to me this ‘job’ was so important; I was once in a f=ing wheel chair! Why because of the car crash, so it’s better to dance; and not use the disability program! Of course I ditched the ‘chair’ along time ago…but I am proud that I’m able to do this job; and have whatever I had left after all that to make $ (from whatever looks that you may think I had or don’t) The point is….I want to tell you other things that he did to others, but I can’t yet…seriously this is really hard. Besides all of the other stuff, I had no ‘clue’ that the media would care at all, or anyone else. I really am not looking for any jobs out there C.J. or deals, and money. For me; this is about Human Rights; (I just want a little for lost income, and the fact that I was told “I am firing all the other older girls too” which was told to me by the owner, weather he denies it or not. I’m so tired. I started dancing because I worked as a waitress for 1 year after my divorce. The bar was a strip bar, and the managers and owner there suggested I strip instead. I listened after 1 year….! Now when I used to have alot more money when I had my own company which was an employment agency….I gave everyone a chance paid them way above min. wage…like at the time min. was 7 bucks; I paid 12. I’m a generous and fair person c.j. Mr. Sit is not. NOt just because he fired me because I’m older, but because of other things…that would make you sick if you knew the truth…but I am not allowed to discuss that…I think some day you will read his name in the paper though; and it won’t be about me; it will be about other people he’s hurt along the way, in some form or another. So., I’m so off topic wow., I’m quite upset with being fired due to age., though insulting and all, I still make money; just not as much as before at his bars. The only customers who ever complained about me; is after I was already fired; and they were complaining that I was gone! This thing with barbara, well it was an internet complaint…I will have to write back when I feel better. Mr. Sit is going to ‘loose’ you will see!
Kimberlee
11 Kimberlee // Nov 9, 2008 at
for Jamie; yes it’s about ‘dignity’ more than $$ I’m a survivor; I bet you guessed that by now. It’s just that someone has to ’stop’ this Mr. Sit. from doing these stupid group firing purges….! Now all the girls at his clubs, will be safer, doesn’t matter if they agree or disagree. This is not about them; (though I’m told from my sources, that they do feel more safe as to not get fired (for the time being) At least some girls feel more safe now. I know you will make fun of the way I write; and the way I look c.j. and about how I make $$ too. I know I’m not the best looking women; but I’m good enough c.j.
To try to answer your question; If I walked into the bar; and they said I was too old., having never danced before; I don’t know what I would have done! It’s what do I do now…? I never went on chat lines; or the internet much, I never did much accept work, dance dance dance, for the last 4 years., and have various ‘bar conversations’ for 4 years. I haven’t watched much t.v. or read any papers in a long time. I filled out my own human rights application; by hand! I’m not doing this out of vindictiveness as for some ‘book deal’! I never thought of human rights either the day I was sitting crying in my car figuring out what to do the moment I got fired! After 4 years., I was used to the places and the staff; and miss them; (some) to this day. I miss my dancer friends too. We had so much fun most of the time. YOu know what? Before I got into the car crash, I was like 25, I had a great job on ‘bay st.” as a matter of fact the Toronto Stock exchange itself; When the driver hit us; and it killed my parents, step-father, well it was Easter Sunday; and he used to work for the Ministry of Housing, but more importantly he was an ‘ordained minister” I was braught up in a good home. I watched him help people all my life; and I’ve tried to help people in my own way too. I sure wish I had them now! But I think they are watching over me; and I think Mr. Sit is in S.H.I>T!
When a ‘young’ women looses her career; and looks, and recovers from tradgedy; when she’s going about life doing the best she can, people should just let her be….I never made John Sit look bad at that bar! it will be proved in a number of ways. This job was so important to me; because all that had been ‘taken away years ago’ became really importaant later on; you know; someone to pay to see me naked at the age of 40 - 44; (not bad I’d say) and I just loved the fact that I could do it; and like it! Everday, I say to myself; thank god I’m not in that wheelchair! And now; I’m too ugly and old! No way C.J. I’m not too old; and all the other bars so far don’t think so either! It’s just that getting fired hurt me more than your average women! How about that. YOu know I would have loved to do much more with my life; but it’s been about survival…and I need to do that a little longer. I don’t give a hoot about t.v., and reporters and books, and pictures, and stuff. It was hard to come out of the closet as a dancer. NObody in the town new what I did, (I was stupid) I thought the story would stay only in MIssissauga; that is the place people new I danced. Not here, most didn’t know accept my very good friends and stuff. Mr. Sit told me to my face…that he fired all the older girls and listed them….(I said well “if that is what you want) then it’s your bar, but some customers will be upset., and I walked away from the parking lot; and never went back! I don’t want to go back to his bars anyhow…I feel that all the money that he might have donated to some hospital, well I helped raise money for that too…because I kept the customers in the bar drinking and enjoying themselves. Believe me, I never hurt that owner; only now I’m sure he’s pissed! He should be but at himself….Besides; all that…I hope you can figure out that I’m not a bad person, and it’s hard to communicate in the first place. bb Kimberlee O.
12 Jason // Nov 19, 2008 at
Hi, I wanted to introduce you to this litte guy “,” his name is comma. He can help you not sound like a jackass.
As for the stripper…LOL! She made the news! I want to have my fifteen minutes of fame. She looks damn good for 44. Call me sometime babe and we’ll do lunch!
13 Billy // Nov 20, 2008 at
send her to Birmingham Alabama
14 andy // Nov 20, 2008 at
This stripped doesn’t seem to understand her own profession. The entire point of women stripping for men is because men want to look at their bodies and fantasise about mating with them. It has nothing to do with skill or how good they are at dancing (unless they can dance in a particularly suggestive manner) and to suggest that is does is simply to delude yourself. It should come as no surprise that most men would generally rather mate with a pretty woman aged 20 than a well preserved one aged 40. It’s foolish to take this personally - it’s simply a biological fact. If age were not a factor in this then you could have 90 year old strippers. Stripping, quite clearly, is one of the few professions where age is a crucial factor.
15 Rev. Theresa Lister // Nov 20, 2008 at
TAKE HIM TO COUNT
GO FOR IT. IT’S A JOB,
MOST PEOPLE CAN’T EVEN DO THIS JOB.
IT TAKE A SPECIL KIND OF WOMAN TO BE A DANCER(EXOTIC). I’M VERY PROUD OF YOU, KIM. YOU GOT MY SURPORT. I WAS A DANCER UNTIL I WAS 40 AND NOW I’M A MINISTER BECAUSE OF IT.
16 pedro // Nov 20, 2008 at
i would hit it
17 One4allman // Nov 20, 2008 at
Yo she is one hot MILF! Makes me wanna take a trip to Canada. 44 just means she’s experienced and by the look of that rack she’s got half the 19yo’s beat!
Kimberlee rocks!
18 Mike // Nov 20, 2008 at
Your forty freaking years old! Face it you’re old and you look like a man. You should be thankful you lasted as a stripper this long. Nobody wants to see some nasty looking old lady dancing around naked.
Hot twenty year old or forty year old grandma? My money goes for the twenty year old.
19 CAJ // Nov 20, 2008 at
What is wrong with you people.? I would frequent a club if she were to be dancing. I wouldnt mind a table dance at all. Bring it on Honey your hot hot hot
20 Tracey // Nov 20, 2008 at
I think people need to look past the fact that this girl is a stripper. Would you think differently about her case if she was a waitress. How about, she is a hard working girl who is not on Welfare.
She has just a much right to go the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario as anyone. Good Luck..
21 Kimberlee // Nov 23, 2008 at
CJ, as usual; you are wrong! Wish I did have all those offers…ha! It’s about a complaint; human rights; and how John Sit, fired me due to age! The internet ititially posed the problem; as I’m sure you’d be happy to know..! Will you do me a favor and attend my tribunal hearing; I’d love to meet you in person! The Tribunal is first and foremost! If you want action listen to a New YOrk stn; 9 a.m. I’m doing an interview; and hopefully you can disect everything I say; furthermore exaggerate these wild fantasies I think you are actually having about me….! REading your stuff; is like a fairytale gone wrong….! C, ya; wouldn’t want b ya. c.j.
Kimberlee
CG says
Hi Kimberlee, how’s fame treating you these days?
I should have said something before, I didn’t and now I will. IT’S CG, NOT CJ.
I know its about a complaint, your complaint, the one you were hoping you were going to have to make when you jumped into the industry at the ripe old age of 40.
Why you took your story to the Internet is beyond me, but I think it was a mistake, in fact I think it is a mistake for you to respond to this shit I write, but you do and I appreciate it.
Fairytale gone wrong, like the one you’re almost living now? Have you been drinking Kimberlee?
Unfortunately I live in Australia and won’t be able to listen to the interview, but be sure to put in a good word for me babe. What New York radio station is it by the way, BULL FM?
You’ve been a stripper for how long now Kimberlee? Perhaps we have already met, after all up until four years ago I lived in Ontario, and being single at the time I frequented my fair share of strip clubs in and around Toronto, and up around the North Bay area.
Some career advice for you: Why don’t you head up to North Bay and see if you can get a gig dancing at Fanny’s. I bet you would make a fortune there or any other strip bar in the North Bay area. You should check it out.
Good luck at the tribunal.
By the way, I don’t blame you for not wanting to be me because if you were you wouldn’t make much of a living as a stripper.
Thanks for inviting me to the hearing, and no I don’t fantasize about you-my wife is 4 years younger than you and she’s all natural baby. I bet there are a lot of men who do fantasize about you though. I bet that makes you feel good about yourself-eh?
Best regards,
CG
22 Kimberlee // Nov 24, 2008 at
Hey c.g. Canadian Gypsy is that it? how stupid is that….and your site is called Crooked in Canada; someone who actually wanted to meet you at tribunal….(not me) asked me…why does that looser call it crooked in Canada…if he lives in Australia;…he believes you are lying…and live in North Bay; and then…well you don’t want to know what he said about you!
What you say in the 3rd sentence is the best thing you ever said…”that you write shit” that is it c.j. you are a shit head…for real. YOu have no proof; you are a complete liar…and didn’t you loose a case of your own…you mentioned it…something to do with Human Rights….hmmmm…I wonder. Mabe you lost your case because human rights figured out you are a liar too. ha ha
Anyhow…..The newspaper published something about me on the ‘net; I didn;t take anything to the net; you are so stupid c.g.
“coward guy” is what it should stand for;
I know people who say you are jealous……you are jealous that women can make money in dancing…simple…you are clearly jealous.
-Oh; you know so ‘nothing’ it’s almost funny reading your crap….you don’t live in Australia I’d almost bet my life on it…! Writing about Candian things while in Australia; what a weirdo you are.
-YOu can’t give me any career advice; firstly if this website crap is your career; you are a joke
you lie about people…My lawyer (not the human rights one…is keeping track of all your lies…and insinuations..and you can get into some big trouble
if I was you; I’;d quite making up lies about which you know nothing about…..you know nothing about Mr. Sit; his past; his activities; who he has working for him currently; how they behave you have nothing to go on. I will be working for about 2 - 3 more years; ha ha ha ha….and you c.j. are spreading false accusations of me., you are just such a looser; the biggest one I’ve seen. I wouldn’t want to say that you likely can’t afford any fake tits to buy that poor wife of yours..that 40 year old poor women….
Besides the men I know; prefer enhanced tits…and big tits…ha ha ha ha.
Canadian coward…c.j.
Get out of the log cabin in north bay; be a man and come to the tribunal there will be people there you should meet…I will be laughing so hard when I see you….wow…..
Oh. by the way just for the record; I turned down some t.v. shows….aren’t you jealous c.j……
That is right; I could have been on m.t.v. every day of the week; but of course want to concentrate on the tribunal…remember spreading false lies is breaking the 1 of the 10 commandments; and pal; you are totally spreading false lies . Oh; and by the way; I am not afraid of the internet; and to voice my opinions; just like you; but I surely woudn’t get on an internet and spread lies like you do…you shoulld be ashamed of yourself….
Again; leve the log cabin in North Bay where you live and attend; I know lots of people in Australia…you have no clue…I think you are a vile person c.g. and a complete liar…! Hey you can work for Mr. Sit; you too would be great together; bashing women and stuff….
I will never come to your site again. I will never read your site again; and i certainly wouldn’t give it any press…this is the best you will ever get out of me…your readers can decide for themselves, and likely they won’t bother with you either…because you are a complete liar….!
CG says‘
Kimberlee, you need to get yourself a better lawyer if what you say he said about me is true because any lawyer worth his salt will tell you that while I tread on thin ice, I qualify my statements with either I could be wrong, or words to that effect. I am not breaking any laws.
Furthermore, a good lawyer would tell you not to respond to my crap. Obviously that it is something your lawyer hasn’t told you otherwise you wouldn’t keep responding.
Your implied threat is a little discriminatory don’t you think, after all there are people who have said far worse about you then what you accuse me of. Why are you singling me out, isn’t that discriminatory? Or have you told them the same thing.
Yes I do live in Australia, have been here for just over 4 year. You can find out exactly where I am by looking up my website on whois.com While it won’t give you my home address it will provide you with my IP number which if you take it to this site [http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?Getlocation]
will tell you the part of Australia I am in. It won’t give you my street address, but it will show you that I am not lying.
I am not spreading lies either by, I am merely expressing my opinion, what I think, and at no time have I ever stated what I was saying about you as fact. The kind of things that I am saying are being said about you around water coolers in the office, at hair salons, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Are you going to threaten them with legal action too. Trust me, anybody judge will tell your lawyer that you opened the can of worms, that you invited innuendo when you took your story public. Should we both end up in courtroom however, I would love the discovery stage of the case given that I would be able to pose certain questions to you that you would be compelled to answer truthfully or risk perjuring yourself. If you don’t understand what I am saying, than perhaps you should ask your lawyer, not your human rights lawyer.
Do you know what “spin” is Kimberlee?
It’s sounds to me, at least from what you have said today, that things are getting to you, that you are feeling pressured. Surely what I have blogged about you hasn’t put you under as much stress as you sound like you under.
You should find another outlet other than in here to blow off steam because what you are writing in here is kind of silly. You are even going out of your way to make accusations about Mr. Sit, implying that he is bashing women?
Come on now Kimberlee, if Mr. Sit were to read what you have written about him in here or took seriously what you are saying about him else where it would it be wrong of him to pursue legal action against you? You have attacked his character in a public forum. By the way, he hasn’t said shit about you, ya think his lawyer advised him to not make any public statements? I bet he did.
You are right, I don’t know Mr. Sit. I can only go by what you are saying about him and you are not making him out to be a nice guy. Not that it matters but it isn’t Mr. Sit’s story that I am interested in. He didn’t take his story into the public domain, whereas you did.
By the way, I thought your case was about age discrimination. Why are you implying that Mr. Sit bashes women, and yet you are getting out of your way to make something more than that in a public forum.
Kimberlee, nobody told you to respond to what others were saying about you on CBC and CBC only told the story you wanted to tell. Having said that, you put your story in the public forum and have nobody to blame but yourself for the whatever stress you are under right now.
You did it to yourself. Like I said, you should have never taken your story public, and I am a little shocked the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal didn’t advise you to not seek media attention. Or did they encourage it, because if they did, they have failed you.
Cheers, and best of luck to you at the hearing. I really hope you get whatever it is you are hoping to get out of it.
One last thing, if you don’t like what others saying about you, you should maybe use some restraint and keep your comments and thoughts in the main stream media instead of responding to bloggers and posters on news website. It’s less stressful, and you won’t feeding bloggers like me.
I think you know that Kimberlee, and you really should take what I am saying to heart. I am only looking out for your best interests, if only because I owe you one for providing me with a fantastic story to follow.
Assuming that you have issues with the way Red Eye ridiculed you, are you considering taking legal action against them? Also, your human rights case worker, you should really insist that he or she focus on your case and not what I or anybody else is saying about you online or cable television. Their job is to present your age discrimination case, prepare you for it.
What I am doing has nothing to do with the case they are preparing for you.
I appreciate your candor Kimberlee, and you are always welcome to respond to anything I might blog about from this day forward, but you really should choose your words more carefully, or at least calm down.
Again, good luck with your case. I wish you well with it. I mean it.
Best Regards,
CG
P.S. Thanks to your story I received just over 500,000 hits on my site-something like 40000 during a 24 hour period, there or about anyway, were from unique visitors. Thank you for that. The more you respond, the more traffic to my website. Cheers.
.
23 Kimberlee // Nov 26, 2008 at
O.K. O.K I KNOW i SAID i WOULDN’T RESPOND; BUT i have toooooo! Look; What Mr. Sit did to me is ‘women bashing’ he bashed 3 white women; (all blond) and threw us away like a piece of garbage….never mind that…I DON’T KNOW WHAT RED EYE IS; AND I DON’T GIVE A FLYING F.U.C…YOU KNOW THE REST….I don’t give a shit about what t.v. people said. i HAVE to laugh at the mean people out there…(like you) for example there was this women a very fat women 350lbs. I think; and she was on t.v. (which I don’t hardly ever ever watch) anyhow this fat women; was on t.v. and she was cutting up Madonna of all people. This was like a couple of months ago..and I couldn’t believe that the 300 lb. women was cutting up madonna and her (looks) I am still in shock about it.so when I think of people cutting up me; I laugh at them c.g. and here is why? My bank accounts prove that I made a ton of cash while working for Mr. Sit. that is why. The botton line is that I never said I was miss america here; I never said that I thought I was gorgeous or anything like that…what I said was I looked great for my age; and I’m good enough to Dance at Sits clubs….you’d have to check it out if you wanted to agree.
C.g my best friend has the 2nd largest law firm out side Chicago in the State of Illinois; believe me; I’m o.k. to be on your site; or any othre that I choose; most I don’t even bother with; at all….
Now; I was upset when I realized how cruel people are…because I’d forgotten that people can be cruel.I surround myself with positive and happy people.
I consider myself a patriotic and honest individual c.j. I don’t think it was right of you to say what you said about me…and “here is where you can be in trouble…” with the law….yourself…
You are deliberatley spreading propaganga..how? YOu implied and said clearly on your blogg I have it….that says I planned the whole thing…well that is pathetic c.g. HOw could I plan on having 3 women at these bars fired due to age…it’s a remark that you made that hurt me the most. I can’t believe that you think that I would plan to do such a terrible thing like get myself fired…ggeeeez…that is a terrible thing to allegate; and a very big lie…so c.g. my lawyer agrees……he’s American…and I think you should watch what you allegate about me. And as for this red eye thing..who cares…I sure as hell dont’ I don’t even know what it is..ha ha ha!
Me; you don’t know me; nobody really does; so here is the thing…I laugh at myself all the time; you know the scar on my lip from the car crash…well c.j. if people want to cut me up for that scar…and or the way I look (that is fun for them to do) if it helps them feel better about themselves…I don’t mind.
What would be so funny is if I saw like a dressed up granny trying to do a pole trick and put my name beside it; I would laugh so hard…! I very seldom laugh or smile in this life c.g. you have no idea what I’ve done with my life., you have no idea; where I have been; where I have been which is all over the world and you have no idea….that I have a very good reputation for telling the truth c.g.
Now….these kids; *or these adults) who cut me up..don’t understand that there are lots of different girls required in the business…older…like ME. three must be younger girls; older girls white girls and black girls and asian girls..and all others…there must be a variiety and the men can choose. I am used to rejection in the business when I guy says they don’t want a dance from me; I am not offended and I am not hurt; I just move on to the next guy…and that is how I feel about people on red eye this; or whatever. I have no desire to hurt peoples feelings. What I can tell you is this…..in my opinion Mr. Sit is the racist…not me. I have experienced numerous things that he has done in my presence to make me think this…so by the way he is not causcasion…he appears not to like white older blond women…..and he fires them in groups. YOu know you are getting on here and attacking me; when you don’t know anything about Mr. Sit……or the way he has offended many people with his behaviors…remember there are 3 men suing him at present toooooo!
Anyhow; having said all this; what I don’t like about you is that you implied that I had pre-planned the firing…..and spreading that…deliberate things..is where you went wrong according to my lawyer who I talk tooooo all the time.
Now; my friends do cal you an asshole; because if you knew me; and saw me in real life…I don’t think you’d tell me; and the person who wanted to meet you….what you say on this blog! Believe me; you would not say what you are saying if you ever met me; I believe you would change your mind….about the case…but I am not going to share anything with you about that.
I’m very tired by the way; anyhow I don’t care about who reads this stuff….I like to talk to you…that is why I write to you..do you know what I like it? because your lies amaze me…the ones that you said I had this pre-planed; and that is why my lawyer and I discuss you….!
You are not allowed to write these false claims.(you are not allowed to imply this…and spread it as truth……and I have to wonder if mr. sit isn’t paying you to do so…? Anyhow…Just stop lying about me; that is what I am asking you…..you really are breaking one of the ‘lords’ commandments by spreading deliberate lies c.j. the lie where you said that “I planned all of this.
So far I am scared to go on t.v. why? because I never wanted to be on t.v in my life! why? because I don’t want people cutting me up! (but there are other reasons too) none of which I am allowed to discuss with you and your readers.
I keep turning down m.t.v. because they claim to want to help me; but I don’t think they can help me at all. I am actually very shy in my own way..I know you are laughing….but the fact is….I force myself inside to dance so that I can survive! So since I have to survive; I have fun; and love to dance naked! I am sorry if this offends your high class readers or whatever. I did go to University of Toronto for a short time; but dropped out to get married; so I’m not as educated as most of your readers; I have college though…(I don’t really count it) anyhow look; That is the one thing I ask you to do; is take that back…that I pre planned this thing…that is bizarre..and the most bizarre thing I have ever heard in my life. I didn’t pre-plan this firing! i cried and cried when this happend you have no idea…and c.g. I am not a cry baby; i watched both my parents die in front of me..well my step father and Mom and you know I taught myself how to walk…after the crash…so you know what c.g…….i don’t cry very easily!
Do you think that I would cry if someone said no to a dance…shit no….do you think I would cry if someone says your ugly…no….do you think I’d cry over things like this…no…i would not…
Do you know what i cried about…the fact that you c.g. said I planed this entire thing….that is why I cried…because….I’m a good person…I would and could not have 3 women fired from 2 different bars on the same week all over 40 I’m sorry that you feel otherwise…that is why spreading that I planned it is really scarey…or it should be for you? I will not be trying to sue any t.v. people…for cutting me up…but what I will do is meet you some day; you will see…and when I do……I think you will be giving me an apology; and I’d bet my life on that!
by the way; I didn’t tell the human rights department that my parents were killed in a car crash; and Dave used to work for the government in Canada; and my god he was an ordained minister…I was taught to tell you and anyone else the truth..that is what I’m doing! The truth about my case…and Mr. sit…..I can tell it; and pass a lie detector test a million times over.
i’m so tired…anyhow…..i know you are just going to make up more crap about me;…..but I really hope you don’t……I did not plan to be fired…shit is was the most fun job I ever had…..I had to get past alot of personal lack of self confidence in order to dance naked! I would never want to embarress myself by not fitting in at a club…but I did fit it at Sits clubs…with the girls…there.
What else;;; I wish that in this world there were not bad people who lie and stuff…because Mr. Sit has already lied to the human rights….and their is proof you have no idea about our case….
Anyhow…..tell you what…if you get a lie detector test…i will take it! and I will pass! mr. sit will not pass……
As far as me; I’m not mad anymore; I was hurt that people would lie like you that is….then I just don’t care what people say about my looks…like I said before what matters is the t.r.u.th…and I believe it will prevail…and that we girls will win our case…there is 3 of us now by the way!
Anyhow….I am not damaging mr. Sit…at all…he’s an asshole and everyone knows it; who actually know him…or else he wouldn’t have age discriminated us in the first place over an internet complaint about 1 of the girls (not me) you have no idea! You know what your advice to me is also wrong; that I shouldn’t blooogggg or whatever; I am allowed to express my feelings about Mr. sit….and my opinion is he’s a liar; and the tribunal will see that…..and I can’t wait until they see that!
Now; Mr. Sit in my opinion is an asssssshole…and liar; and he has already been discrediting my reputation in the weeks that followed the firing;…why….? Because there are customers willing to testify against him; and they kow what he said about me…so c.g….you know…I am on the internet but so is Mr. Sit; he’s just using other peoples names according to my sources; and has his employees go on websites and blogs; and stuff..you have no idea c.g….
Anyhow again; i don’t give a flying f.u….you know the rest…by the way I got hired at 9 clubs…after I was fired from sit…or something like that….what is odd is that all the club owners or managers that hired me where all White; but Mr. Sit his managers and himself are Chinese;…so I think Mr. Sit..doesn’t like older women; and I think his managers are the same….! and i said that in the human rights paper work; so i’m aloud to say it here…..
I like most chinese people by the way just not that liar mr. Sit!
Hopefully I will not go on your site again; because I am sick of ‘myself’ you know that..just sick of it..
I’m sick to death of thinking about you spreading propaganda..and lies…so please stop lying about me…..
that is to say; you’d have to check out the clubs for yourself…! Now; As far as red eye; they aren’t payiing my bills; so have a good time cutting me up….they have no choice to ‘judge’ ! that is their job…besides; I would never go; and have never gone on a website and ever cut up a celebraty (I can’t spell for shit) anyhow I have never gone out of my way in this life to harm and hurt others!
What you must understand c.g. is that I actually thought going public in the Mississauga News. would be a tiny little pic. (a head shot only) and I thought Mr. Sit would see it; and be pissed off…I never the the whole f=ing world was suddenly g
going to find out…I had no clue. (stupid on that aren’t I) ya ya.
O.k. so i’m glad you are getting lots of hits on your website; good for you….I like to help people and if I can help you by comming here to your site; I will
24 Kimberlee // Nov 27, 2008 at
Thanks alot…you mabe are afterall an o.k. person, and I appreciate that you will help me with a blog thing….I’m actually crying all over again; and now I have to go to work..I am crying again because now mabe you will help me..somehow, but my eyes are all puffy; and today; I really look 45 because of crying! But I will go to work because I’m a workaholic.
I’m going to read your website again tonight when I get home; and see if anyone else is going to say mean things….I usually only go on your site and 1 other one.
Thanks (I’m freaked out)
25 Kimberlee // Nov 30, 2008 at
Apparently there is a naked photo leak; and I dont know; I have sent a couple of naked photo’s to my friends and stuff..who knows. C.G. I believe that Mike above; is Mike my x husband; or Mike at the Million who was ordered to fire my by John Sit; I know he didn’t want too…..anyhow; he has already lied on the tribunal paper work; there is tons of evidence against Mr.
Sit; the list is growing longer every single day. Now; Mike; the x., I thought you were in jail; because I had a parole officer call looing for you several months ago…as far as Mike; you are probably an uglier women than me;;; ha ha..\
Anyhow; the witness against Sit; that I have tucked up my sleve; is a man; and he will testify at tribunal; which also catches Mr. Sit; in a lie that he already told at the tribunal…there is proof Sit is lying….
So; anyhow ya all here is something else good.
Penthouse in Houston Tx; I’d like to say hello to the management there; because the Italian guy from New York was amazing; but the Asian guy who acted like a military drill sargent; was an asshole! Just don’t think about me that I don’t like Asian’s because do; but what I noticed is that the Asian Managers; prefer the youngest possible girls. It is simple. I remember even telling my guy that I did[t like Penthouse that much due to a couple of bad employee’s…..but the Management like the Italian guy; from New York was amazing…..! I loved workig there for a little while; and even in Tx; Texas; I remember thinking that there were some odd meetings taking place in his bar; with some Muslim men; again; it was reported to the on staff door man….good thing he was like a human metal detector.
Anyhow…. I don’t have any way of letting people know what is going on with the case; but what I can say is that there are some pretty shitty people out there in the great big world; and I wish to hell they would not try to turn this into a judment; because it looks to me; that all shows on t.v. are about juding and everyone wants to be another
Simon Cowell or whatever his name is; so stop juding me; and judte yourself…do onto others…and your own life will be a little better;…
There is a male witness in my case; who will be comming to the tribunal; and he will testify against sit; and that is gonna be very interesting;
C.G. I made up with the person I was telling you about; so that is good; and I am happy again.
I do not think that I am famous; that is terrible; a famous person is like Madonna; or something and my name is not good enough to be mentoned with hers; who is my favorite star…! so there; People who might be reading this; this entire thing is embarressing; it’s not fun knowing that people are deliberatley for example cutting up my family name I heard…and that too is a big sinolaaaaaaa…..I hope the peopl that did tihs;; on redeye; still haven’t seen it; all get fucking fired; they are loosers themselves…jude me huh? what gives you the right; you don’t pay my bills; and when I go to sleep tonigt; I will pray your asses get fucking fired one day…a message for those assholes on the pannel…who I have nevre ever even seen before nor will I ever watch it….(I think the way I think; and by the way there are a shit load of my friends who thinik they are assholes too…they should get into a bar fight or something with a couple of my friends; and lets hear there apology…! see ya loosers at red eye;;;hope you all get fired one day.
Kimberlee
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26 Kimberlee // Dec 2, 2008 at
Re: the case! This is an update; re: my case! I am allowed to discuss this case; it is a matter of public knowledge anyhow….that is why I can say it;
One of my witness; and there are many is getting DEATH THREATS! THAT IS RIGHT; this too; is all John Sit’s fault - ultimately; it is his fault! that is not to say That Mr. John Sit; is not the one giving death threats; however there is a link……I will explain that at the trubunal; this person is going to go to the police; and there is alot of shit that is gonna go down because of that situation alone! It is extremely stressful for me; knowing that a witness is getting threatened with their own life! The list is getting longer every day with people wanting to help here; who have been abused by John Sit in some form or another; you will all be suprised when I go to the tribunal; and I let you know about his hiring practice; concerning black people! I am going to defened all black people too! I urge any girl to come forward who knows that they have been fired because they are black! Any girl who was fired at all and has been treated unfairly by Mr. Sit….That Tribunal will have to hear about Mr. Sit; and the way he continuiously abuses people; to situations which I have witnessed personally it makes me fucking sick !
I hope you are starting to feel differently about mr. Sit…because as god as my witness what I say about that Mr. Sit is true. This is Canada; and we don’t tolerate this guy abusing the good women or men of any race, or color; I am personally sick of Mr. Sit; and the way I know he abused many many of these women; he is a racist; in my opinion…you have no idea!
Tribunal will likely be after the Christmas and all other Hebrew holidays; and Orthodox holidays and stuff like that…I like people based on who or what they are; there are some black people that I like and there are some I don’t like; there are some white people that I like; and some I don’t there are some chinese or asian people that I like; and some I don’t; and that can be said for the muslims too; I like some of them; and really fuciking hate terrorists…that is it…….o.k. bb.
Kimberlee
27 Fred // Dec 4, 2008 at
http://www.terb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=207928&highlight=human+rights
she claims nothing bad was ever said about her….wrong! the chick is a nutcase.
CG says
Knowing that I will offend Kimberlee-nutcase is an understatement, and trust me after exchanging more than a few emails with her in the last week or so, I know what I am talking about, though to be fair I think she might be slightly brain-injured as a result of the car accident that killed both her mother and father.
I’ve learned not to take everything Kimberlee says too seriously these days, though what she has said to me in her emails makes for good reading. She tells quite an entertaining, if not unbelievable story about herself, her biker boyfriend (apparently he’s a Hells Angel) and her ex-husbands. I think there is two of them, though her definition of “husband” might include guys she just hung around with on a daily business.
Kimberlee has shared quite a bit with me, most of which will eventually be published here in Crooked in Canada. I’m just waiting for her age-discrimination complaint to be heard and come to a close. By the way, about the age-discrimination complaint, knowing what I now about Kimberlee and what she has told me in emails, I really doubt the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal would have taken her complaint seriously if they knew or learned half as much as I know about her before hand.
She’s a whack job that is for sure, and more than ever when it comes to Kimberlee and her complaint about John Sit, it’s about the money and vindictiveness. I have know doubt about that now.
28 Kimberlee // Jan 5, 2009 at
hey c.g.
I SEE YOU TOOK OUT MY POST FROM YESTERDAY; ABOUT MAURICE BOUCHARD
THE MONTREAL HELLS ANGEL WHO IS IN JAIL THE ONE WHO IS ‘INNOCENT; MOM THAT IS; MOM MARURICE BOUCHARD…
WHO WAS SET UP…
BY WHATEVER YOU ARE TO STUPID TO KNOW ANYTHING..LIKE I TOLD YOU BEFORE;
ANYHOW; I THINK IT IS AS DENNIS FROM KESWICK SAID; THE HELLS ANGEL BIKER THAT IS MY FIANCE; ANHOW; HE SAID YOU WERE A GOOF;
HE HAS ALL YOUR PRIVATE EMAILS YOU ARE A TOTAL GOOF AS YOU ACCUSE ALL HELLS ANGELS OF BEING DRUG ADDICTS; AND I PERSONALLY RESENT THAT; YOU ARE LIKELY THE ONE ON DRUGS…NOT THEM; I HAVE BEEN AROUND HELLS ANGELS A VERY LONG TIME; AND IN THE US. OUTLAWS TOO…I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE SINGLE MEMBER EVERY DO DRUGS….
SO YOU C.G. ACCORDING TO YOUR EMAILS..ARE A F**KING GOOF JUST LIKE DENNIS81 SAID YOU WERE…
AND BY THE WAY; MAURICE BOUCHARD MOM; IS INNOCENT;
JUST SO YOU KNOW THE TRUTH.
HE DID NOT HAVE ANY JAIL GUARDS KILLED HE WAS SUING THE CANADIAN GOV. AND WAS WINNING; WHEN THEY DECIDED TO MAKE HIM A SCAPEGOAT; YOU HAVE NO F**KING CLUE; ABOUT THE TRUTH ABOUT F**KALL C.G. I CAN SEE HOW YOU JUDGE PEOPLE; AND YOU IN FACT ARE A PEICE OF HUMAN GARBAGE.
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Lol, f**k yer a dumb broad. I moved your comment to the biker and judge story I did the other day ya whack job. Lol, you really need to find something better to do with your time other than file illegitimate human rights claims and posting your bullshit in here. Thanks for stopping by though.
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